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Location, Location, Location? (Asks the greenhorn)
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chris hoffman
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30 Aug 2014 09:54 AM

    I'm a very new GPAA member living in south Alabama and I've never found a speck of gold.  I'm biting at the bit to take a trip to the mountain area around GA, SC and NC - about 6 to 12 hours away.  I went once years ago (armed with a toy gold pan) and spent the whole day just trying to find a spot.  I felt like a dog sniffing over hours for the perfect spot to do its business.  I found a river bank off of a main road filled with garbage and debris and tried my luck for a few minutes until I was chased off by some guy who, without giving reason, convinced me I couldn't be there.  I quickly lost interest in the hobby.

    I've done some research, got a real pan and joined the GPAA.  Is there anyone with experience that could point me in the direction of a legal spot to pan?  Anyone know someone in AL, GA, NC or SC with some land that would let me pan around for a bit? My dream would be a GPS lat/long to a nice river bank or a place near an area that's been known to produce every now and then.  I don't want to make the mistake again of stepping on someone's toes but I'm as green as greenhorns get and I feel that I might need my hand held on the startup.

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    30 Aug 2014 10:34 AM

    Hey Chris, My name is Paul, I live just outside atl in East Point.   The closet place to you in Ga is the GPAA claim at buchanan,ga, just north of I-20 on the second exit into Ga, US 27. In Al you can go to the talledaga Nat forest, (pan and shovel only)check with the rangers for info and a permit, it's free. There's the Ala Gold camp, it's a pay to play but you get a 10% discount as a GPAA member, then east of Delta there's another GPAA claim called Curvins cow pasture, this and the Buchanan claim are in the guide book, so is info about the Nat forests in AL., so is the Ala Gold camp as a pay to pay place. The closest public prospecting in Ga is around Lake alatoona on corp of eng property, (pan and shovel only) check maps for public access, info also in guide book. There's another GPAA claim in coker creek, TN. I can give you some detailed info on places around allatoona or directions to the Buchanan claim. and plenty of info on pay to play places in GA and NC, some discounted for GPAA. Just PM me if you want. Maybe get together some time.    

     

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    30 Aug 2014 08:34 PM
    Paul, so many thanks for all the info!  My guide book package just arrived and can't wait to sink my teeth into it.  You had mentioned "pan & shovel only."  I do have a pan & shovel but I also have a metal detector.  Also, after much reading I couldn't resist dropping the penny for a Gold Rush Nugget Bucket which should be here in time for my trip.  I guess the detector and Nugget Bucket are no-no's in most of these places you mentioned or are they considered okay?  Either way, I'm looking forward to the day that I have the personal and educational experience as yourself to offer some tips to a newbie as well.  You've boosted my confidence greatly!
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    30 Aug 2014 08:54 PM
    Chris, No problem, glad to help. The pan and shovel rule is only Nat Forest and Corp land, no stream sluices, and no metal detectors. ( Be glad it's not like New Hampshire, you can't even use a shovel, you can only use your pan to scoop material from the stream. But you can apply for a dredging permit, go figure) But the nugget bucket is considered panning, it is okay. Also no digging outside the stream bed ( in the banks) on these lands. At most pay to play places and GPAA claims you can use dredges, highbankers, sluices, metal detectors, pretty much all equipment unless noted otherwise.
    Feel free to contact me anytime. I'll send you my e-mail in a pm. Paul
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    31 Aug 2014 08:31 PM

    Paul,

    Is it "no metal detectors" in all national forests? I was just in Stanislaus National last week and had my detector with me and never thought about it. Never thought that they would be. I knew National Parks were not permitted. If so, whats the reasoning behind it? Thanks.

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    31 Aug 2014 08:47 PM
    Leo. No metal detecting allowed in Nat For, or Corp of Eng land. No detecting or prospecting in Wildlife Management areas or Conservation areas (either of these can be in the middle of a Nat For, so you have to make sure you know were they are). Not allowed in most State parks (depends on state law). Don't know the reason, maybe artifact related, or afraid people will dig alot of holes and not fill them in. I know on BLM land you are required to fill in even the smallest holes because wildlife can step in them and break legs.     Also in some Nat For, the state's Game & fish designates some streams as trout habitats and either have seasons to prospect or no prospecting allowed. (clash between state and fed laws).   Paul
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    01 Sep 2014 10:13 AM
    Very discouraging to think about, but just 1 seasonal flash flood does more damage than amateur prospector's could possibly do in 10 years. What actually is the Corp of England?? Are you refering to the country of England ?
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    01 Sep 2014 10:57 AM
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    01 Sep 2014 11:58 AM

    Hi Chris

    If the national forest is not considered acquired or under the weeks act then the conditions of detecting is much different. These cases usually have the minerals open for location, These area the exception would be no metal detecting. Beware there are also mining claims in many of these areas being that they are open to location and that means no detecting unless you have the claim owners permission. There are still surface management restrictions in some area so you do still have to do your homework. These areas are primarily on the west coast. The east coast as it is sometimes coined, is not covered by the 1872 mining law in the same way because of the acts that the lands were acquired under. Truth be known the intent of the law used under many of the acquisitions by USDA forest service where they acquired the land  should be open but it has been accepted for so  long that it is closed it would be near impossible to turn back now. Some of the acquired forest do allow metal detecting and other activities in some areas so do not be afraid to check in on the activities allowed in the East coast forest.  Always try to check with the district ranger in the area you want to go in. He knows his area he is in charge of better than anyone. Some National Forest if they do allow an activity, the activity will have a fee associated with it.

    happy hunting

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    01 Sep 2014 02:51 PM
    Thanks Walter, I knew the Nat For on the east coast were aquirred and use of the areas have limitations, didn't know there were different rules for Nat For out west, I have only prospected and researched east coast areas so far. Thanks for the info.
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