Last Post 08 May 2015 02:53 PM by  Benjamin Crain
clean up claims please
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TIMOTHY HIPWELL
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03 May 2015 03:48 PM
    New member and fresh prospector, I was excited to go out to the nancy claim and find some color. Got there to find a lot of garbage. I mean trash! I found some fines and flake but was very disappointed to see the state of this claim. I will be bringing an extra garbage bag out next time and ask anybody visiting this claim to do the same. The place was awesome and will be back again. Thank you to everybody that keep these claims available for us to use.
    Alex Santos
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    03 May 2015 05:30 PM
    Where is the nancy claim located
    WILLIAM SOUTHERN
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    04 May 2015 08:56 AM
    Indeed good to remind folks, but often these claims are visited by non members and other folks camping that leave these messes too. I have had to clean up after others as well and often fill holes left to keep the BLM off our backs.
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    04 May 2015 03:54 PM
    If Tim is referring to Nancy's Gold claim, that would be on page CL55 in the 2014 mining guide.

    Trash is an on going issue everywhere. No one respects public property like we used to.
    As William said, many non members visit these claims as well as members.
    As Tim suggests, taking along trash bags as part of your mining gear every time you go out is a great idea, I carry trash bags in my truck for just this reason.

    Pack it in, pack it out, everyone wins. Not all subscribe to this idea.


    Bill
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    04 May 2015 04:11 PM
    As said by others, it's not generally GPAA members that create the trash on our claims, it's other idiots abusing the land. Pick up all the damage and trash you find to keep us in good standing with Government regs, fill in holes, and report anybody you think is claim jumping.

    There is nothing funner than coming up on a pile of beer cans, food waste, and a fire pit still smoldering when you arrive, but it must be dealt with, and should be reported so the BLM knows the land is being managed. Take pictures of the evidence and pictures of the clean up and send them to the claim owner so they can verify with the BLM you are a responsible miner and a conservationists.

    It's a fine balance, in order to take we must also give back. Hunters and Prospectors do more to protect our lands and wildlife than anybody screaming about the lands and animals safety, we not only have to keep it that way but have to show it.
    Ronald Peterson
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    04 May 2015 05:49 PM

        The beer cans or pop cans I don't mind picking up, they are worth money for the deposit or so much a pound.

     

        Food waste causes problems with bears and other pests.

     

        While up in the Olympic Mountains in the State of WA, our group came across a campfire that had jumped the fire ring rocks and was smoldering through the fir needles heading for the timer. Took us a few hours to put it out before we could  set up camp.

     

        The worst offense that I have come across to date was in the Cascades in OR. Some campers had used a small creek that was about one foot wide as their outhouse. There was human waste and toilet paper in the creek and on the side banks. Sorry, no I did not clean this one up and did no prospecting in that creeks water!

     

        A little respect for our " GREAT OUTDOORS " gos a long ways, after all we own it.         Ron

    TIMOTHY HIPWELL
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    08 May 2015 10:19 AM
    Thank you to everybody that responded. I understand that people do not respect nature like they used to and I was not suggesting that our members made the mess. I guess I was just bummed to see it in the first place. I hope our members do fill in holes and pick up more than they came in with. This week I went out to the "lost dredge" on page CL45. It was a well kept site no garbage where I camped and I even found my first " nugget" by definition from the back of the guide. Lots of mosquitos and a few wild animals kept me on my toes. All and all had a great time and got that gold. Not bad for my first month prospecting.
    Benjamin Crain
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    08 May 2015 02:53 PM
    Ronald, I did some bear hunting in Washington State when I lived out there and they had banned all baiting, traps, and dogs. What it did is make it almost impossible to hunt bears unless you know how to study the land, markings, and food sources. You would spend a few days scouting and then a day or two waiting for that bear that had marked his territory to come out.

    But that did not stop me from finding the guys putting a bears favorite food out as if this was their private land and they had a feeder set up. The quickest way I know to bring a bear into camp is leave food waste out, from Alaska to Virginia it's always the same, they are looking for an easy meal and people take advantage of that even though it is illegal in many States. From Hunting In Alaska we learned quick to keep all our food in 5 gallon buckets and a few 100 meters from camp hung from trees, otherwise you will have some very unwelcome guests.

    I still find it incredible that people are so careless with their food in bear country.

    One night I was camping down at the bottom of the Grand Canyon and just took a light bag for sleeping, no tent to keep the weight down, and I woke up about 2 AM and had hundreds of Ring Tailed Skunks walking around the site, all you could do was lay still and let them go their way.

    Food waste is by far our worst enemy in the wild.
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